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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:46 am

CRUSADER... lets change the name for Stunner?


This classe alterady have a atak speed OP , MAX ATAK SOMETIMES TOO



This classe alterady have a stun OP (all anothers classes know thats ) who say no is cause is user cruss...


This class alterady is 60% of the server


GM... i will represent what is happening...


SS VS CRUSS : no coments... if the ss no die 1 slash he will die 1 slash and 1 hit (and many crusaders use tweak skill ,so its easy) SS LOSE


CHamp vs Cruss:Champ tank well in this server alterady , champ will tank the cruss CHAMP WON *.*


SM vs cruss:if her find the crus first her go have SOME CHANCE IF HE DONT RUN , but if the cruss stun the SM her FOR SURE WILL DIE , SM LOSE


Voys vs Cruss:SAME THING OF THE SM, but voys no have abyssmire for help VOY LOSE


Cleric vs Cruss: I m cleric and i know what i will say , We clerics fight vs cruss who have big ataks speed and atak max all the day, FREZE IS THE DEFENSE!!!!! but the cooldow to long... we just can freze the cruss for 4 seconds give 4- 3 bolts and let they stun us (with lucky the cruss is slow and the stun will fail) if the cruss stun us IS THE END... FINISH! FINISH! FINISH! if cleric freze he can stealth run and use pot too x.x`` CLERICS LOSE


Cruss vs Cruss : thats easy... they use stealth and wait... who have less pacience lose CRUSS WON


GM...I have a question... WHAT HAPPEN WHEN SOME PLAYER GOT STUNNED BY A CRUSS WITH 600 HITS FOR SECOND,10K MAX ATAK ????


Sorry, i play all the day and all days , and all times i see THIS STUNNERs


I CREATED THIS TOP FOR GOT CRUSADERS stun less OP ! I KNOW WHAT I SAID... Thats happen ALLL THE TIME


Obervation : i will tel you what happen with the question.... THEY DIE
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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:49 am

(sometimes i need the ´´drama´´ for tell the truth)
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Post by xMayy Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:15 am

even if 100 people agree to your post, crusader will never get a burp, its sad.
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Post by blackiceblack Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:38 am

Cruz were meant to stun ... imagine me tryin to melee an SS i wud die before i got near... SS are meant to be Speed and dodge it.. my stuns gets bugged by midgets /.champs any1 who got the skill to

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Post by Eiko ^^ Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:09 am

lol donkey xD
I will not agree with Medusa.. I will agree with Eli =P

PS. Medusa.. Do u see who is most powerful on this server? Few people with class crus, then will not change it then, better leave it, dont waste your time with making posts- gm will ignore it, after few days/weeks u will see that your post got deleted/moved to basket.
True story~
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Post by xMayy Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:40 am

Eiko ^^ wrote:lol donkey xD
I will not agree with Medusa.. I will agree with Eli =P

PS. Medusa.. Do u see who is most powerful on this server? Few people with class crus, then will not change it then, better leave it, dont waste your time with making posts- gm will ignore it, after few days/weeks u will see that your post got deleted/moved to basket.
True story~

Agree with eiko here.

Look at these wings, they have burping SS into the ground, something that didnt need nerfing, maybe a tweaking agaist cleric, which happened.. However i dont know whats going on with it as by eiko's post in another thread.

Crus get these wings, they are a more then a 1st world power.
I MISS on cruses, and a ss are all about pwnage hit rate, that isn't fair now is it?

Some crus move faster then ss, even in con mode they still have 750-900 aspd.

they have a bd stun that can last almost the length of their CD
They have insane con, some crus can pull the same con as Spirit reaper.

Crus is the ultimate class, nor will it change. I dont know why this "perfect" 1st world weapon will not get burped.

Give a crus a honor pet and what do you have?
Look at rayne and ivy.

They can go on a singular nuclear strike on a whole guild and dominate them all, unless the numbers of that guild is insane that 1 dies and another appears.

as a SS the only thing that cna beat a well equiped/ malled up crus is my HS + a beast load of players.

This perfect class, this first world ar machine needs a burp, be it capped aspd even with +aspd mults or the con > hp/def progression or even the max attack.


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Post by MLee Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:03 am

They basically have no real weakness while most other classes do.

They have dual swords to take up the dual str gems, leaving their gloves open to freely gem with hitrate gems, which allow them to achieve high hitrate. They can obtain insane dodge, along with above average defense, and with insane HP. Their max is insanely high and their ASPD like Elly mentioned is bullsht. Not to mention the ratio from max:aspd - It can mini-stun enemies like mad.Add to that an honor pet that recovers every 2-6 seconds

So a crus running around with 100k+ HP with 16k+ max, with 3k+ def, and 900 dodge, with 800+ aspd, along with recover effects that work every 2-6 seconds. Also with a nice multiplier on their IS and BD stun. (All estimates)

Yeah...

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Post by blackiceblack Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:12 am

uhum Mr.Donkey to U Karo
and i do feel the wings r kinda Bad idea :/
also the dodge part is true :/ but wat shud they do?
if they change the dodge-agi thing non mallers will get pwned by cleric HR

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Post by SpiritReaper Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:46 am

There max is 12-13k on Con mode dual wep. Equal to that of mine. Our hp happening to be almost exactly equal is BS too.

Nothing is going to change. I still want my free skill reset Smile. I want the 100 wep on champ fixed to give us more passive max instead of going down by 300.

We not going to get a response. Crusader is the golden class that isnt going to get changed. GM Chris said they dont see it needing a change because they did not adjust it.

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Post by Swift Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:52 am

lol medusa...if u say crus is stunner only, then ask GM to remove the skill from crus then >.> damn..its one of crus skill..if we cant stun u, then why the skill is there on the first place lmao -___- remember, champ got stun, ss got seal, cleric got froze, sm got seal also..why the hell u question abt crus stun??? crus also need sumthing to disable enemy before kill -_- cuz not all crus can kill in single attack or OS lmao..u said this medusa cuz u always got stun from crus..get a life..
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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:56 am

I no wish to remove thats... i wish more cooldow for stun , or less duration . I and anothers no want be stuned and ´´wait´´ for die
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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:57 am

cause cruss have a stun duratyion OP LIKE THEY ATAK SPEED AND MAX ATAK
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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:59 am

Lets remembter of bonus stun of bd set and kylin and ek, lets remember each 1 freze (the best defense of a cleric) we need suport 2 stuns... and i cant suport 1!
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Post by S2MEDUSAS2 Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:00 am

´´Í CANT SUPOORT 1´´ ,, anothers i no know , i think a ss can suport 1/2 *.*, a voy and sm too
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Post by PledgeAllegianceToTheSwag Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:18 am

There is this one special class that wouldn't get burp at all.. if a +27 crus, specific crus got killed by a certain class, that class would get burping.
e.g. LilTaker got thunderbolt's bd effect and chance percentage as well as tornado burping at the same time.
Crusaders dying from SS, so now got anti-SS wings which is an accessory wherein you can have it without changing any of your main equipment configuration to have its effects. SS were used to be a SM/Cleric's weakness.. now, I can't kill them if they have these wings.

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