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Post by THEQUEEN on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:17 am

srsly, +78 con for armor and +100 con for hat? it's making the other sets completely useless and no point in buying and forging high(only way a corp kylin set can beat this Sh**t is if u forge it +18 on every part =.= like i'm THAT rich). lol if i'd known i could've just kept my newbie set and spent on buying weapons instead? an SS acc-con build with disciple set easily hits 23k hp while i barely hit 17k with my kylin set, let alone +16 forged death set. wat... srsly =.=

it's practically making the kylin and grandoise and normal death sets practically useless... XD



like serge mentioned, champs with disciple sets in DH are FAR too OP alr... =.= no forge on armor needed,just save all for forging their uber swords XD

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Post by THEQUEEN on Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:32 am

i think i may have exxagerated a little bit on the stats, but you get the point i'm trying to make Wink

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Post by Swift on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:00 am

yeah..the eq might be op..but then, its easy to kill them lol.. they just got high max..but low def and pr..and champ is another story tho..but u actually can kill em XD only pk skills matter..=p
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Post by THEQUEEN on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:59 am

def's pretty decent if u ask me. to get to 23k hp for a lv100 acc/agi ss without bd hearts or ANY forging requires a heck load of stat and hp bonuses in form of the disciple's set. i have +18 frozen kylin armor, +11 boots and gloves, boots with lv3 hrt and i get sth like at most 16.6k hp on acc mode 22k on con mode, and i'm pretty sure my 678 def(acc) isnt high either.
it's a set i dont think has any benefits whatsoever, other than creating loads of slightly OP players average 'old' players like me will face with now-considered-sh**ty armor sets we work so hard to forge only to find ppl who get armor sets just as uber or even better FOR FREE with the priviledge to work solely on their weaps.
i'm NOT ranting, just wondering WHY such a set even needs to exist. isnt the normal death set good enough? not like the newbies here need THAT much help? i didnt see a prob with the old death/kylin/grandoise/95 sets in terms of power and affordability amongst new players and current players alike back in Nov last yr that requires THAT sort of 'solution' and i certainly dont see a need for this set NOW.
maybe i'm wrong, i dont care ;p i just like a good explanation even if it means being called ignorant =)

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Post by THEQUEEN on Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:05 am

if they're gonna allow OP disciple sets in DH they might as well allow in users like me with average kylin sets. i see no OP 'risk' whatsoever, as long as no demis and above are allowed in. My frozen kylin set even forged is no more pwerful than a disciple set other than PR which in HERE doesnt mak that big a diff.
like i said, my fren's having a heck of a time in DH with his disciple set that as i pointed out, has even better friggin POTENTIAL than my kylin set that's increasingly hard to forge on, with the game as it is now.

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Post by Swift on Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:04 am

and why u use bd heart?xd idk anything abt ss..but..u forge heart in boot which u can actually use agi gem and increase ur aspd to kill fast =p

calm down nigga =p many players also dun like this set..but as the time goes by, ppl forget abt it Very Happy its good..now newbie can go pk and match all those old player XD just gem up ^^ thats the only way if u dun want to lose to disc set user :d

well..dun mind abt the minor stuff like 23k++++ hp or max or so. like i said, u still can kill em..they got 20-30k hp..but def only like 500-600++ depend on their lvl and accessories ofc.

disc set exist not because to make newbie op or so, just to give them a chance to pk while farming =p and u know, with disc set, they can farm faster cuz of high max..then, they can improve fast and pk with old player =p i tot u like pk to be alive again XD

and abt kylin in dh... no!! ppl will abuse it. even if u think disc set is better than ur set now, but like i said, disc set only have high max..def and pr still low. they still die in dh~
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Post by Serge... on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:21 pm

The reason of this set is mentioned in launcher if im not mistaken, or in the logs, or in the forum thread.

GMs thought of this set to help new players to focus in their main equipments, without the need of making a provisional one.
You can go right ahead to Dark Area and start farming for your Reward Corpo Kylin Set, which is sold by players ingame.

Think of it, before you had to farm to get yourself into the game.
Now you are already in the game and you can focus in building your main set with no previous effort.

Thats the sole reason.
This sets are not meant to be for battle.
So they dont have Attack Speed and Movement Speed.
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Post by Swift on Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:08 pm

no need aspd nor mspd..they just nuke us from far like ss and IS from crus ;d if u lucky, u survive 1 slash from em..if not, just accept ur lost =p
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