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Post by [GM]Connor Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:40 pm

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A Voyager on Maximum upgrades can obtain 100k-110k HP (Con mode) with 5k Defense.
They can do 10-11k damage using Conch Ray and considering they have two more offensive skills (2x Tornado & Lightning bolt (13k normal ,18k on bd effect)

The only way their defense can be increased is if their offensive damage is reduced. With 3x offensive skills a voyager is a powerful opponent who might die faster than other characters of the gem levels. But they can take out multiple enemies at same time and the overall damage output is tremendous.

Either frozen effect has to be fully removed for Defense modulation to be calculated with higher values.


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Post by [GM]Connor Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:40 pm

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Post by Neanderthal Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:02 am

Good enough Very Happy It's just a kill or be killed situation
1 seal they're dead.. Idk about 5k def, I'm still trying to figure out what gems should I forge to get that... Full con armor and headgear + frost souls on glove and boot + con AJ poss?

It's hard to build a voy, you have to choose between surviving rate or killing rate.
In looking at their gameplay, It's hard for them to do bossing and farming. If you're a newbie starting with a voy, you can't kill bd mobs at CA without having a reasonable amount of spr and pots. They also have to buy corals from time to time stacking up their inventory. Without stealth it would also be hard for them to cast conch ray as it has a very short range. So i think, malled voys should remain strong as they are now for only then it could be strong.

I'm the only active legend voy so far, I think no1 else would be replying here Very Happy
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Post by SexyJo Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:37 am

voys rnt overpowered, not their problem if u r too no0b to survive, and as gm said only players belong to this topic comment so gtfo
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Post by Mooogle Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:48 am

no comment... atleast look for a non donator or something like me...i really have no words to comment in those request coz is to annoying...ill wait for good news then....coz it makes me angry when admins working on server and ppl asking for request...
if i wanna request something i would ask:
increase def, hp and pr on death torso...coz i cant tank any1...i wanna be invincible...
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Post by disc003 Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:44 pm

ya..like moogle said...please increase hp|def to con ratio , and pr for death torso to 30 or 31....because voy death effect is good when armor has 30 pr...
please do consider that....
and also , y not make a map for pk in sea(i really miss this , coz in official,pk in DS and FC seas are totally awesome)
and have some rewards for that , it will make other players to opt for voyagers rathr than melee classes...
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:47 pm

Ehmmz.

They did increase defence from SM and Voyager both I think? (its same as crusaders now).
I think ur defence would be fixed with that easily.

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Post by disc003 Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:52 pm

hmm..i like to check it out by loggin in , but i sold my eqs x.x...
and if i'm not mistaken , cruz and voys have same con to def ratio from the start....
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:07 pm

Nope they dont, they share it with SM though

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Post by PledgeAllegianceToTheSwag Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:20 pm

paka66666 wrote:wtf are you talking about?
voys are so freakin ovapowed ! nooob voyagers can come just come ca and conch like 3-4 cursaders to death. the stun their is so frigging much !

and now they have moer defence? gg

LoL 3-4 nooob crusaders :p cannot cast a stun on a voy?nooooobb

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Post by disc003 Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:52 pm

Gemil wrote:Nope they dont, they share it with SM though
oh my bad then... Surprised
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Post by Neanderthal Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:01 pm

GM can you make nado 100% effective on people with 100k hp? It's kinda useless now.. not delaying champs and SMs (whom I think is the class that really should be disabled at every PK map).. probably SS won't be nadoed soon as their hp got increased.. Idk, im just suggesting

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Post by Terra1 Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:17 pm

I disagree 100% to that. Champs get stun seal criped 90% of time cause of their monsters hp and max attk. I like nado how it is. It misses like crus stun occasionaly misses on champs. 100k hp is Hard target to obtain.
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Post by Neanderthal Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:42 pm

well ya, only highly forged people could get that much of HP.. Well if you get sealed or stunned and then nadoed, wouldn't you be thankful if the nado saves you from the damage intake you might get once ur sealed or stunned?
Even if they make it 100% effective it will still require a smart usage ya know..

but it's ok if it'll remain the same if SS wouldn't reach 100k hp (i think it's possible now as hearts are improved together with their HP)

IDK, I'm just suggesting Smile

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Post by Terra1 Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:54 pm

Nado is fine as it is Why would ss forge hobd lolz cause its putting them at a disadvantage. Take away max attk and/or dodge. No sane ss would be willing to do that for just simple hp XD.
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Post by SexyJo Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:29 am

whats the stun chance of voys out of ca?
i think gm must lower it or just changed with another skill cuz whenever someone fight voys (if they rnt sealer) they cant move. i cant even bolt.
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Post by Neanderthal Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:40 am

IDK, but I think legend SS can already reach its attckspd limit with just using the legends morale and some agi forge in their boots
They got a decent def too so I'm just saying that they might think of actually forging heart in their boots... but I ain't sure if that can make them reach 100k hp... It's their build, they can choose between surviving or killing rate.. I don't consider choosing a support type SS is insane.. just saying~

Another thing is that, voys got nadoes to serve as their defense skill.
Also, you can reach 100k hp with using 2 swords. That means you can kill them easy (considering the bash and crip) and disable them from using their defense skill (it's like hitting 2 birds with 1 stone~)
Moreover, the cripple effect that everyone is suppose to enjoy is at voyager's nado(if nado misses then they can't slow down opponents too)... Melee voys + slowing them down = not giving them chance to survive (if nadoes aren't working)

Nadoes missing on 2 blades... that's so helpless
Champs should at least wear shield to experience that immunity
So probably GM should make it ineffective on a 150k hp(or whatever ur hp is on shield) and up

Again, I'm just suggesting... Just wanna see what will GM say to this~
Don't worry, I'll be fine if nothing happens with this request xD

Hope they consider that~ And btw, you're not supposed to be posting here again..
Are you gonna say you have a voy now? xD

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Post by Neanderthal Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:44 am

SexyJo wrote:whats the stun chance of voys out of ca?
i think gm must lower it or just changed with another skill cuz whenever someone fight voys (if they rnt sealer) they cant move. i cant even bolt.

GM told me it's less than 50% Ms. Jo~ Probably I was lucky last SW.. just saying
I think it decreases with 100k hp and up too (as I've tried it with Terra before)
Not sure with that tho..

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Post by Terra1 Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:54 am

Its same as curs meleeing i see nothing worng with it.
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Post by SexyJo Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:00 am

crus melee doesnt have a range and its annoying, but atleast i can run from it, would gm plz tell us whats the chance of the stun exactly?
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Post by Neanderthal Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:17 pm

if you can run away from crus, im sure you can run away from me too
they got crip and we don't

You also got stunned by other crus's at SW, I think that's what actually stopped you xD

GMs don't wanna reply with voyager discussion u,u

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Post by SexyJo Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:50 pm

well its just so annoying that even normal low gemmed voy can stop me from bolting.

i just think it wasnt fair to give voys stun out of ca and clerics not, but well as gm said there will be new skills, so we will wait and c
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Post by Neanderthal Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:19 pm

o.o normal voy stunned u outside ca too?

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