Champs or crusaders?

In both classes, which one has the higher max? It seemed to me that champs had the higher max attack and the higher def. I'm not really sure so could you confirm?

yes, champs generally have higher damage and defence and their equips gives higher PR.

thats if u can gem up high....
but champs sucks in hr and dodge and they are very slow

Champs Hr way better then crus lolz they suX at dodge and attk speed.

oh.... didnt know that cuz champs miss on me

Champ are way better than cruz. (DEF/Str)

Champ are little boring / sucks at agi / not much hr

Champ Have Better Slash than cruz , by using lv35 sword, they still can kill cruz easily...

Champ has better hr then crus once you hit 85 unseal swords. I got 700 hr far better then anything a crus can obtain. On Top of 700 hr you got Dk effect with my etenral kylin making me never miss. Attack speed and the fast cool down stun is what seperates a champion from a crusader. Stealth on crus is Ok but i got necklace to make up for that. I dont think any class other then crus should be allowed to stealth but since necklace is availabe to all I obtained it.

damage and defence wise, champs are better.

the only advantage a crus has is the attack speed and dodge.


when i was still using my crus i had over 600 dodge, its practically uses to mellee me if you dont have DK or a hitrate over 600 as well lol

what i dont like about champs are theyre too boring at times, its mainly for mellee damaging and survivng.

as for crus, i just got bored of it but its fun to use.

if you're really thinking about choosing champs over crus then think of it this way...


money wise, they're the same since both mellee classes strives for 85 unseals.

survivability wise, i'd say go for crus cause of stealth if you can't afford to get a champion that would have a decent defence and PR.

damage wise, champs has the advantage over damage but crus has attacke speed and dodge.

think of it this way.


lets say, in 5 seconds a champ hits 10k.

in 3 seconds a crus hits 6k

what would you chose?

so thats like saying...

in 10 seconds a champ hits 20k
in 9 seconds a crus hits 18k


just think of it that way if you're concerned about attack speed.

for crusaders, if you cant one slash an opponent you have to stun it.
you dont, you're dead if you dont have good defence and PR.

for champs, if you cant one slash an opponent you'll have to chase it or wait till the bloody bastards stun wears off xD

if you survive long enough, you get to kill em or chase them, then kill them.

So.. champs are better at killing people than crus are? Cause the way I'm seeing it, champs seem to be the dps and crus the support class >.>

well now they suck

umm yea Ur right Internity javascript:emoticonp('') omg Champ Skills Back =D

Cleric Looking Good 8k bolt =D

cleric the champ killer

@Internity: not really, before champ skill change i cant hurt Spirit alone, needed FEW clerics and good stunners