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Post by cascapt Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:23 pm

Hai ik im newb on the serv but i cant stop checking something on this serv o:.


First it's not dedicated when dc are 1$ each and ppl spent 100$+ in donation etc etc and tons of ppl do it, second...math time

Ik this aint got anithing to the post but yes i own a serv 2 not ToP but someother game dun matters...AND Like...ok math time.

1$ = 1 dc

lets start with the more expensive stuff

Black dragon helm 100$
Kylin helm 50-90$
lvl9 gm card 36$
lvl5 manu items x15 = 15$
great gem card lvl 9 30$
Grandiose set 35$
Corp bd and kylin 50$ ea
lvl 9 bd gem card 30$
lvl 40 w/e lvl 40 weaps 35$ each
frozen kylin 50$
dark kylin 90$
holy kilyn 80$ (sets)
lvl 9 azrael card 32$ ea
lvl 66 fairy with exp poss etc 20$
+18 forge card 55$
skills shop 25- 35$ ea
lvl 95 sets 45$ ea
lvl 95 weap 24$ ea
sum scrolls 11- 20$ ea
lvl 6 great gems x20.. not expensive i guess but wut aobut non donors..?they must farm like for 2 hours and then find a buyer to make a lvl 3 great gem...Donors get like lvl 6 x20 great gems just like that?How nais.
lvl 85 weaps 19$ ea
shaitans aura ->>(x5)<<- 8$
eye soul or heart of bd x3 6$ ea set for a non donator gettin 1 1 bd soul is like gettin a azzy gem.
Godness rings 18$ ea ea personal has like 2 36$ per person a shit load of ppl have thems...


Kay we done with this ill pass for the good part now

MY DEDI costed 320euros (EUROS) and 56$ montly to keep it on and it's a 16 gb dedi idk if ur aiming for a 1 gb dedi or even 6 dun ur choise...But im pretty sure but like uber sure that u already have 500$+ in donation...Ik ur goin to ban me for this or ur goin to delete the post do it if u want if u feel like.Ik u dun care but on me serv i dont OP my donators yes ik im talkin about this blabla and i got donators 2 well my serv is a flyff serv it's morel ike a luck based game u got awakes were u get random stats. PPL asked me if i could put awakes on donation and i clearly said NO, all donators want is a easy and OP'd life they dun care about ay1 else in the serv if they got theyr items etc...And im tellin ya 1 thing 1 thing is having a lil bit of OP donators like in here let me see...For example donators could get like...amps and stuff + lvl 1 or 2 max gems for 3 or 4 $ each and some other stuff maibe having some ring with + 3 stats or eve +5 stats more then the normal ring,,Other is having donators with OP'd sets OP'd rings OP'd legend thing i tought it was enuff for having +10% all stat bonus but nah u had to put even + 20 stats didnt u ;>.Kylin stuff OP'd stuff Having x20 lvl 6 great gems for 10$?LOL if it was my serv would be lvl 1 gems x10 for 10$ Lol. Dedis aint that expensive to pay and like a 1 gb dedi can cost like 50$ i got a friend that obugh a dedi of 6 gb for 120$...

Well my point is that u OP'd donators so badly that non donators cant even enjoy 50% of the game...PK areas? oh sure ofc u can on pk areas if ur a maller OR a crus with an 1 hour stealth AND u still have soul detectors LOL..And like wut u have on ur serv ait donator they are donor hoes ( no offence) but ur prices are like...OverPriced, idk how but u actually prolly got some1 paying 100$ for a helm ON A GAME..

Well im ending this post knowing imma og get banned so... pls read this be4 the adm deletes it XD
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Post by SexyJo Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:20 pm



im a donator and i agree =)
its over priced. yea u might say one part isnt so expensive but this one part wont make us strong, we had (and some ppl have) to buy many parts to be strong, so for exmple if we said 30 usd isnt much, but 30 usd + 30 usd + 20 usd + 5 usd + ...... blah blah blah , i think its just too much.

yeah i did paid much and i think im stupid for that cuz i dont think my char worth it now cuz of the changes admin did for the builds, if i knew my char would be like this i wouldnt waste any single dollar here, sorry if my post will get the admin pissed or whatever, but its just the truth and cuz gms r ignoring me when i talk to them so i think i have to post somewhere.

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Post by Castiel Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:38 pm

another donator and i also agree. ( well i didnt donate much but apparently i pwned so hard) note: pwned as in past tense.

the buying parts is totally true. first i got rings. (36 dc), frozen kylin helm (50 dc), then over time i spent 60 dc on lottery tickets... only decent eq i got was corp bd. so it does get damn expensive.

and now im trying to sell Ava's eqs cuz with the build changes its not worth it anymore.

i invite the GMs to take Avalon for a test drive and see how weak clerics are now even with the frozen kylin and bd effect cuz i die in like 3 seconds from any legend outside ca.

and if the excuse is that i can still get better yeah i can but i would have to pay for legend and +18 forge cards which arent much better than my gems now

or u can take into consideration my other recycling DC idea.

click here: https://bsopko.forumotion.com/t472-donating-return-recycle-idea

lol since im gay i voted for the 3rd choice =P

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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:05 am



lol well ava, u rnt gay u r the best <3

and no even if u got 18+ forging cards its still the same, my armor is 27+ and i malled +18 cards for gloves boots and staff, i have 2 goddess rings, + the item i got from being a legend. and my cap is 14+ i think, with all that i got more than 800 spr, 44k sp and 14k hp with poss. 75 pr. so dont u think its lame to die when another legend melee me in few secs??? i dont think theres anything more id mall for my cleric to make it stronger. a cleric with all this spr must be overpowered, but im not askin the admin to make us overpowered, make it atleast balanced. u fuked us up =)

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:47 am

Basically youre asking for Clerics acting as crusaders.

Ok. Maybe (pissing off comment alert), just maybe, you guys dont know how to properly play clerics. I must say that Sara (my cleric) can solo most players and can kill most legends. This week killed Push in DW with a single stun of my guildmate and he cant 1HKO me and im just in 0cp bd set with 500+ Spr and exactly 20k sp, 30 pr ftw and 8k hp. So you tell me? Last day i killed 3 players in pk map, a 5k max crus a Dark Kylin user and a cleric. The 3 of them in a row, they were on buff, poss and lots. So its as easy as Flash bombing and pew pew, running to one side to bug their stun and Act2-3 bolt them for the win. And i was not in poss, neither intense. Lmao.

Actually if you can bolt 7k in normal maps that pretty devasting. You guys have 800 Spr, im sure i dont have to tell you how dangerous it is, even more when it doesnt miss.
Then only problem of you guys is that you run forward and then TS. It must be the other way around if you know what i mean.
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:55 am



did u c me complaining about my bolt? i got a good bolt and yeah i can kill many people easily, im talkin about how we die easily, tell me how long can ur cleric last ? i dont think u can tank. its not about pk skills i never complained about that the whole char is weak, i admit we hit good its just that we die so fast, for a 44k sp with high def and pr, finishing that 44k in secs is just not fair at all.

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:59 am

Did you know, even champs (which are the best tankers of the game) die as easy as you and i in battle? They can least like 5-10s more than you, but still they do nothing cuz they will get over stuned, oversealed.

To be honest i rather PK with Sara than Astral cuz she least more than him.

Astral's base pr: 58
Sara's base pr: 30

That tells you everything.
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:09 am



lol no thats not true, im always pking with push on my side, when we go ca most of the time its only me and him vs fantasia guild, and guess what , we both get stunned and sealed all the time and we both get hitted from a gang on us, he tanks, i die and come back and hes still tanking. champs r fine

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:12 am

Sure? Cuz when i see iSiku, SifuXIV and Icy, just the three of them vs Push, i blink and Push is gone. He even logs and now hes almost 24/7 in con mode according to iSiku.
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:17 am

u r talkin about 3 legends vs him? ofc he will die fast. but yeah im sure champs tank much more than clerics which is normal. just tellin u gm fuked clerics build up, not champs.

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:29 am

They didnt. Its still the same as some months ago.

SifuXIV is not yet a Legend. Icy is not a maller. Still they need more than 9k HP to break Push's defense and i know it pretty well cuz i have 8.5k max and still cant break him.
Icy and SifuXIV has less max than i do, which means the only one dealing damage to Push is iSiku, which i still consider a fair battle, cuz champs can still cast Primal Rage.

Theres more than just saying "they screwed clerics". So far i hadnt complain about builds and balances. Its just players play to be God. Prettending to be unbeatable just cuz they got Dark/Holy/Eternal Kylin sets.

I said it in World Channel before and i repeat it. Most donators don't know how to play.

Its not just about heavily forging gems and specting your char to be pro. If it was that way there wont be any PK, instead we would have ranks for the best sets having in the top the +27 ones.

An SS with 9cp ungemed BD set has a certain chance to beat a non champ player in 1vs1 if he knows how. It just depends on the way you play.

And for the last time (cuz i think i said it once long ago) clerics are not meant to be solo killers. Obviously you cant compare clerics survival with champs. Its like comparing the sun to a lighter. The difference is overwhelming.

Your char its so powerful, as Avalon's and i still dont understand why he quiting his cleric. You just have to understand that maybe youre playing it the wrong way.

For God. 75 pr. I can reach 73 pr with Astral and 5k max is not enough to break my defense. Imagine 73. I think youre overacting. Come on. I bet you can easily solo any player. Obviously you wont survive an assault of more than 3 players. For real Joanna, are you serious? =/


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Post by Castiel Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:30 am

again i agree its not about the bolt or skills.
clerics only got 2 things goin for us:
high hp (sp x3) so like 100k hp total (me), and bolt (like a slash but lot less dmg) ( to make up for that pr doesnt take into account). what sucks is that in CA pr is taken into account with bolt dmg.

my stats: 30k sp on poss, 52 pr, 700+ spr, and almost 1k def on full buffs and i have frozen kylin and bd effect (only take 1/5 dmg with 50% chance). and i still die in 3 seconds

lol i laughed when it was even implied we dont know how to play clerics.

clerics should have def like champs i think =P

and again i invite GMs to take Avalon for a test drive to see what im talking about.

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:42 am

Didnt say you dont, i said maybe you dont. What do you complain about Cast, when you go CA you brutally murder tons of players. XD. You still can 5k bolt me. With a single flashbomb you can solo a crus with 20k hp, and only legends have that amount. I have 16.6k now and just can tank 4 of your bolts.

Difference between crus and clers is that you guys dont have to deal with def and dodge. You will always hit. I can just rely on my slash and the few melees i can land.

What i say is, tanking 1 guy is ok. Tanking 2, its great. Tanking 3,4,5,6,7,8,9+ thats just ridiculous. And thats what youre asking for. Tanking tons of players. 1vsLegend is always a kill. Dont think someone can survive a Legend assault. If someone does, my congratulations.

I still think you guys are over acting.

Ill buy Tania's GR6 now for sure to show you guys youre wrong. >=)
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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:52 am

Btw, theres something i can and i will agree with.

Godness Rings for magic clases are half of melee clases. What do i mean.

My GR2s has 100 def and 4 pr while GR6 (i think) has 50 def and 2 pr and THAT is an unfair thing. If you guys wanna ask GMs to place the same def and pr for all Godness rings, even if they cut GR2 to 50def and 2 pr, im with you.

PD: sorry for double posting. I edited the one before many times already. xD
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:05 am



cant u just stop sayin maybe we dnt know how to pk????? i play top for 3 years. i have pro chars there and i dont have any problems. if the problem is with my pk skills then id have problems in top too, no?

u r saying Icy isnt too strong, that proves clerics suck now, Icy can kill me alone in secs, and ask him if u dnt believe me.

and no im not trying to be a god and trying to solo alone, i always say i dont mind losing or winning as long as im enjoying, and winning all the time is just boring.
i said i dnt wanna be overpowered, but i suck, im highly gemmed and i suck. dont talk again about our ok skills cuz i told u its not the problem we r all fine in top, and i think its the same game so same pk.



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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:12 am

Then clear it out. Whats exactly what you want?

More pr? More spr? More con? More def? Enhancing ES? Enhancing AS?

If the pvp and survival skill a cleric has already are not good enough for you then i dont really know what are you looking for, i dont really get where clerics suck.

Dying by a crus in sec? You can kill that same crus in secs with a flash bomb. Thats a fair battle.

Im not trying to make you mad or something, i dont really get what you need to feel confortable with your character. I seriously dont.
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Post by cascapt Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:04 pm

This was a post for adm and about the donatio ncosts ad OP'd items and u turned it into a pvp flame war of who has better pk skills ._.


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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:25 pm



Astral i always c u pointing about anyone if they complain, well we r complaining for the admin not for u, so i dont have to explain for u my points cuz i really dont give a shiit what u think. and i didnt ask for more spr/pr/con etc. clerics were fine before so why admin changed and made them weaker??? cuz ppl started crying much ? not my problem though if my char was so strong its cuz i malled much, if they want me weaker then let admin give back some of my money and take some of my equi not just make it weaker after i malled to make it strong its bullshiit

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Post by cascapt Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:59 pm

Good points but like clerics got nerfed?...Like Adm removed stat points?...Cuz i see champs with uber high def / hp / hit and i see Crus with amazing hits and they still have stealth i dunno much about this serv but i dun think clerics have stealth O:...Just saying why did clerics got nerfed while champs and crusaders have amazing skills hp and def not to be talkin about the dodge and atk speed ...a crus can give only like 3k hit by hit while a cleric can give 8k hit by cast but they have 1 cast ea like 3 or 2 secs u got like 3 or 4 hits second...Srry for the newb reply..
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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:56 pm

Its not about pointing the ones who complain.

I was actually trying to get your point from a GMs point of view.

Think of it like (rather you want or not) if you have a way to explain that to anyone, not just me, then you will have an exact request for GMs. And you and i know they are like rushing everytime and they dont attend us more than a few minutes, and most of the time they just leave us hanging.

But its ok if you dont want to explain, to be honest i dont think you can.

Since i came youre complaining about the same. Since the very moment i registered to the forum. "Clerics are screwed". Well, i have more than 4 months in BSO and i still dont get your point. But whatever.

Good luck, i think, with your request.

My advice, make a topic with the exact features you think a cleric nowadays should get improved with.
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Post by cascapt Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:38 pm

Serge if ya let me i'll justadd something to ur post... Gm's leave us hanging around cuz first this is a 200+ playas serv ...second, this serv has 4 (4) gm's... wich leaves 50 plays+ per gm. third...I've never seen a gm online or a gm talkin or a gm doing anithing ingame...NEVER...And 1 more thing...On the banner it says 99% balanced = fake n gay
Balanced donation ( not sure but i think it's there.) and lots of events (fake n gay, gm's dun even come online how can we have events)...Im done...
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:05 pm



really astral? its the first time i complain about clerics when did i complain before?? go ahead get me a thread i complained in about clerics that they r screwed and post it here lemme see cuz i dont remember i ever did?? cuz asi said clerics were fine, i just once complained about champs when gm made them overpowered and many ppl did so gm fixed it.
and no i dont have to make a thread and explain my points so i wont have ppl posting crap like u, id rather talk to GM personal as i always do. i dont need a reply from u for this cuz im tired of replying u. if u r happy with ur cleric and u think its cool then its fine stay playin it, leave me complaining and biitching here im not harming u.

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Post by cascapt Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:10 pm

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Post by Serge... Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:32 pm

I pass.
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Post by SexyJo Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:47 pm

cascapt wrote:Jo has a saxy pic o:...



lol thnx

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Post by cascapt Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:51 pm

Guys i quited this serv so like i have like 200mil or so + some gems ill be givin thems away to any1 that wants thems...
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Post by SexyJo Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:29 am



keep them u might get back someday, or give for noobs who really need money not someone who already got equi...

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Post by [GM]Connor Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:23 am

Which hosting company do you use
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Post by cascapt Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:11 pm

Server pronto dedicated servs...xtreme+ package ^^
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Post by [GM]Connor Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:40 pm

Our current host is better than xtreme+ plan by serverpronto

also xtreme + with ms 2008 and 1gig port will be $349.95 per month o.o
and its specs not even close to the current dedicated server


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Post by cascapt Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:28 pm

First yano that dedis can be upgraded rite?Second yano that if u have "friends" things can come cheap yano...But ur saying that only cuz u want to have uber mega w/e bullshit serv u gotta OP donors like a shiz and non-donors eat dust .. cuz if u see u NEVER BUT NEVER made a edited item for non donors...NEVER Not even raise the stats a lil bit or something... U NEVER DID ANITHING LIKE THAT.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:21 am

SexyJo wrote:

really astral? its the first time i complain about clerics when did i complain before?? go ahead get me a thread i complained in about clerics that they r screwed and post it here lemme see cuz i dont remember i ever did?? cuz asi said clerics were fine, i just once complained about champs when gm made them overpowered and many ppl did so gm fixed it.
and no i dont have to make a thread and explain my points so i wont have ppl posting crap like u, id rather talk to GM personal as i always do. i dont need a reply from u for this cuz im tired of replying u. if u r happy with ur cleric and u think its cool then its fine stay playin it, leave me complaining and biitching here im not harming u.

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i agree with u jo.. but @astral, whn you said ur guildie stunned the other guy in dw and sara killed him. but did you thought about. soloing a crus ? or a champ with like.. 9-10k max? 1 stun or primal rage thingy and kill u and its all over.
she isnt asking for cleric to be like a crus... if u think about it.
crus have stun to save themself .. sealmaster have seals.. voys have nado. .champ have primal rage. which can last about 10secs w/ all type of effects stacked on top..

cleric. we have es... . that is good but if u fight against chubby. or some uber pro guy .. they will 1slash ur es.... if u have under 500 spr. or around there. plus 1stun = dead... or 1 primal rage, they can melee u down in less then 3 seconds.

then u can always try running and bolting! but its still hard when they have kylin boots + lvl 90 speedneck. only thing cleric have tht we can save ourself with is.. the crystaline blessing thingy...

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Post by SexyJo Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:34 am


i have kylin and lv90 ms neck and i keep running and i also use flashbombs and it still hard for me, so how about non mallers clerics? this is just so sad..

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Post by IXUSS Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:50 am

HAHAHAHA laughs at the topic Twisted Evil

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:10 am

Hmmm Ive to agree with most off this here. I do play on SexyJo's char from time to time and the stats on her are amazingly high. 75 PR + 800+ SPR with a 40k+ SP shield is insane.

Speaking about Icy or iSiku is just overrated, your compared a full +8/+9 gemmed player vs a +6/7 gemmed player.
Its not so hard that Crusaders are the overpowered class here, its the Crusaders with Dark Kylin set that are overpowered.

Reasons:
- Dark Kylin set = Cripple effect for slow + lower dodge
- Kylin hat = 1 sec stuns, or in other words another stun possibility

A combination of that makes you invincible against any class because off the stun they already have, and then if you manage to survive the stun you will not be able to get away because the Kylin effects.
Funny things are, that even with SexyJo's defence, SP and PR she wont survive against a crus like this at any time unless she can 1hit them (which is impossible with even her 12.5k bolt) Also keep in mind Energy shield = SP reduction /3 -dmg. In other words her shield absorbs 120k+ dmg.

Mallers have also the advantage off having a 110% lv85 weapon, the possibility to go from 0 to +27 on everything in a few minutes (lv1 - lv9 gem cards) and getting lv100 in 30min or less (lv6 sandbags).
In other words, if a maller with enough money comes around they will be the best possible character in less than 30minutes without doing anything at all ingame

Next to that you have legends with +10% on every stat & +20 each stat and the other bonusses. Meaning a maller has atleast 10% advantage over anyone else.

All this together just makes me sick off this server, 99% balance my ass its not even 9.9% I would say. I really wouldnt mind a mall, but this server's mall is not made to host the server and keep it running, but its made for own profits seeing the amount off items & prices in the donation site.

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