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Post by khimieyee Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:30 am

hi. and i got problem forging lvl 5 azz gem..

i tried forging lvl 5 undead on armor with lvl 5 ref with 10 catalysts, 10 fruits.(nothing else added, no poss, no hi amp) 5 times all fail.
then someone said if you forge, you have to have higher level ref.. i wonder if its true.
Like if you'll forge lvl 5 undead with lvl 6 ref, it'll have +5% success.. every level difference gives 5%.. ex. lvl 5 undead and lvl 9 ref = +20% success..
however, i tried forging lvl 5 aggre with lvl 8 ref gem on gloves with 10 cata, 10 fruits and poss and still failed.
im really confused and idk what to do..

and i also need techniques/tips before forging .. like how many fruits/cata should i eat.. or should i use poss/hi amp/zerk pots before forging?

PS: is it true that forging lvl 5 azz gem is harder than forging lvl 6? Shocked

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Post by Eiko ^^ Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:00 pm

Well.. Forging azz is really really hard.
But i can tell u that GM wrote u should use:
1 fruit then 1 cata(in that order) > gem > every higher lv ref=5% more.
U can always use poss (but before using fruits etc).
Hope u understand =P Good luck to u..
I still have to forge 1x lv6 light x.x
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Post by IzzHzz Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:48 pm

lv5 az gem is 20% success and lv6 is 0.5% success..good luck <3
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Post by Eiko ^^ Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:14 pm

FORGING RATE AND TECHNIQUE(need help) Forgin10

It's old post and GM wrote weeks ago they made better forging rate gems lv 4-7 but well... u know how's hard is forging =P
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Post by Chad Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:20 pm

do higher lvl gems still work? coz from my view ,they dont anymore

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Post by khimieyee Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:40 am

thanks eiko Very Happy great help.

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Post by khimieyee Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:42 am

i dont think poss affects forging rate.. gm didnt mention possing.. Razz

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Post by GilbertMarv Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:43 pm

GM please check 1 more time about forging rate,bcoz its not like what eiko post what gm lisa wrote,thanx
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Post by [GM]Connor Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:51 pm

[GM]Connor wrote:
Gem Level
Raw Rate (No amplifiers)
Amplified Rate (Blue forging fruit Refining Catalyst)
1 100%100%
2100% 100%
3100% 100%
4 70% 85%
5 60% 80%
650% 65%
7 40% 55%
830% 45%
920%35%
Random Weekend bonus +15% (One of the weekends in a month will have an extra 15% success rate)
Random Weekday bonus +20% (One of the weekdays in a week will have an extra 20% success rate)


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Post by IzzHzz Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:00 am

lv6 75% is kinda wrong.i tried a lot of times and it fails
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Post by Guest Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:07 pm

thats wrong , lv 5 is 90 % and i fail like 4x

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Post by nmenoor Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:18 pm

Always Surprising Eiko haha had no idea of that and it really helped me to put gems now hehe thanks see you later
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Post by Ryzl Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:00 am

Thanks for the guide :3
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Post by khimieyee Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:28 pm

ANOTHER CONCERN. please answer thanks so much <3 Smile

and hey btw, if you do the 1 fruit 1 cata in order thingy correctly you'll get 90% success rate for lvl 5 right? what if you also got lvl 9 ref gem? so it will have +20% more success rate.. is that fine or should i not go over 100% ??

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Post by khimieyee Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:39 am

alright, i just forged lvl 5 undead with lvl 7 ref gem on armor awhile ago.. used 1 fruit > 1 cata (in that order).. still failed.

i used lvl 7 ref cuz i was wondering if you use fruit/cata correctly you'll get 90% success.. then +2 level difference of gem and ref = +10%.. so it'll be 100%.. i dont understand why i failed..

56b wasted GM.. how much more?
GM please check my character.. i think im bugged on forging Sad

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Post by Chad Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:51 pm

khimieyee wrote:ANOTHER CONCERN. please answer thanks so much <3 Smile

and hey btw, if you do the 1 fruit 1 cata in order thingy correctly you'll get 90% success rate for lvl 5 right? what if you also got lvl 9 ref gem? so it will have +20% more success rate.. is that fine or should i not go over 100% ??

First thing khymieyee,forging is good as i see now i've just forged a lv6 and a lv7 azz gem 2 hours ago with same lvl ref because higher lvl refs dont work anymore. Added that ur character cant be bugged in forging as i've asked GM Connor about that and he said "it cant possibly happen",also you should try using these tips while forging lv5-7 azz/bd gems .1) Repair ur eq that u will forge 2)Buffs then poss 3)Amp,20 fruit,20 cata and forge while auto buffed.I usually succeed while doing this,i hope you succeed as well and goodluck^^!

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Post by Swift Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:18 pm

really chad ??Sad
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Post by Chad Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:25 pm

well yeah ,sometimes it works some times not. No harm trying a new technique.

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Post by Swift Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:55 am

=.=!! anyway..i will try tho o.o
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Post by Zezima Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:37 pm

IzzHzz wrote:lv6 75% is kinda wrong.i tried a lot of times and it fails


Its is true, I never failed lvl 6 and I did 4x, but I've failed a lot on lvl 4-5 hahaha
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Post by khimieyee Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:28 pm

i guess forging with higher lvl ref bugs you and fails you.. 20 fruit/20 cata dont work. i guess 1 fruit > 1 cata works. Smile and hi-amp decreases your success rate too.. i dunno really lol

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Post by GilbertMarv Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:12 am

GM post ABSOLUTLY not right!! i forge lvl 5 azz gem 2 times in row,using ref lvl 7 and use fruit and cata should be 90% but in fact is 100% failed!!!!
GM PLEASE CHECK again ur system is not right =.=
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Post by [GM]Connor Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:03 am

Using higher level refining gems does not increase success chance
Given below is the forging rates in effect-

[GM]Connor wrote:
Gem Level
Raw Rate (No amplifiers)
Amplified Rate (Blue forging fruit Refining Catalyst)
1 100%100%
2100% 100%
3100% 100%
4 70% 85%
5 60% 80%
650% 65%
7 40% 55%
830% 45%
920%35%
Random Weekend bonus +15% (One of the weekends in a month will have an extra 15% success rate)
Random Weekday bonus +20% (One of the weekdays in a week will have an extra 20% success rate)
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